Military Strategists Have Known for 2,500 Years that Prolonged Wars Are Disastrous

Posted by: George Washington Post date: 11/01/2010 – 14:03 Wise man say … Graham Summers’ Weekly Market Forecast (waiting on the Fed) Posted by: Phoenix Capital Research Post date: 11/01/2010 – 10:40 Remember, much of the market rally from early September has hinged on the belief that the Fed will announce a large QE 2 program this Wednesday. For months the Fed leaked information that this was likely to be the case. We also received forecasts from Wall Street (specifically Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs) stating that QE 2 ranging from $1-4 trillion was coming in November. Navigation PollsDonate To Zero HedgeRecent posts Shopping cart View your shopping cart. User login Username: * Password: * Create new accountRequest new password Zero Hedge Reads Angry BearBearish NewsBoom Bust BlogChina Financial MarketsChris Martenson’s BlogContrary InvestorCoyote BlogCredit WritedownsDaily CapitalistDaneric’s Elliott WavesDealBookDealbreakerDr. Housing BubbleFalkenblogFibozachiFund My Mutal FundGains Pains & CapitalGlobal Economic AnalysisGonzalo LiraImplode-ExplodeInfectious GreedInvesting ContrarianJesse’s Café Américain Market FollyMax KeiserMinyanvilleMises InstituteNaked CapitalismOf Two MindsOilPrice.comPension PulseShanky’s TechBlogThe Daily CruxThe Mad Hedge Fund TraderThe Market TickerThe Technical TakeThe Underground InvestorWall St. Cheat SheetWashington’s BlogWealth.netWhen Genius Prevailed Home George Washington's picture Submitted by George Washington on 11/01/2010 14:03 -0500

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2,500 hundred years ago, one of the greatest military strategists ever – Sun Tzu – said:

“What is essential in war is victory, not prolonged operations.””No nation has ever benefited from a prolonged war.””Now, when an army of one hundred thousand is raised and dispatched on a distant campaign, the expenses borne by the people together with disbursements of the treasury will amount to a thousand pieces of gold daily. In addition, there will be continuous commotion both at home and abroad, people will be exhausted by the corvee of transport, and the farm work of seven hundred thousand households will be disrupted.”

“A thousand pieces of gold” is a metaphorical, not set, amount. The costs of today’s wars are actually much higher than a thousand tons of gold per day.

Despite the talk of withdrawal, America is engaged in perpetual war in the Middle East (and see this, this, this, this, this and this).

America’s political leaders haven’t learned a 2,500-year-old lesson.

And see this.

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by Sudden Debt
on Mon, 11/01/2010 – 14:59
#691466

But in the US wars, they DID learn from history:

1. Rape woman

2. Rape children

3. Kill citizens

4. Plunder from the poor

5. Act like God is on your side: GOD IST MIT UNS!

Login or register to post comments by Max Hunter
on Mon, 11/01/2010 – 15:00
#691469

I think they have learned the lesson.. The wars are needed. An enemy is needed..  There may be a few naive politicians in Washington but the majority have a tacit understanding of what’s going on.. They are traitors..

Login or register to post comments by flaunt
on Mon, 11/01/2010 – 15:00
#691470

War is the health of the state.

Login or register to post comments by Temporalist
on Mon, 11/01/2010 – 15:29
#691540

“War is the health of the State.” – Randolph Bourne

http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/hist_texts/warhealthstate1918.html

 

Login or register to post comments by Henry Chinaski
on Mon, 11/01/2010 – 15:06
#691496

Without public debate and without congressional hearings, a segment of the Pentagon and fellow travelers have embraced a doctrine known as the Long War, which projects an “arc of instability” caused by insurgent groups from Europe to South Asia that will last between 50 and 80 years. According to one of its architects, Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan are just “small wars in the midst of a big one.”

We are already 27 years into it.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Terror#Terminology

 

Login or register to post comments by tony bonn
on Mon, 11/01/2010 – 15:11
#691507

murderers are not amenable to reason or non-sociopathic logic. hence their blood thirst is never sated….obama is a murderer. bush is a mass murderer….the usa has no business in the middle east except to visit destruction upon itself….

Login or register to post comments by umop episdn
on Mon, 11/01/2010 – 15:16
#691517

Major General Smedley D. Butler wrote a book after he retired. It begins like this:

“”WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.

A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small “inside” group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.””

Read the whole thing for free here:

http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm

It seems like ‘we the people’ are just being scammed again. Welcome to Scamerica.

Login or register to post comments by Temporalist
on Mon, 11/01/2010 – 15:31
#691543

I’d have to disagree that it is the only international racket as the central banking racket funds the wars.  The two are linked like stink to shit.

Login or register to post comments by Minion
on Mon, 11/01/2010 – 15:18
#691522

If the MIC, no doubt full of military strategists, know this – why would they continue?  

I’ve read that in Chinese, the word for crisis also means opportunity…… 

Login or register to post comments by knukles
on Mon, 11/01/2010 – 15:26
#691530

Oh well there’s always the “other, an other and the other” solution.  When one war gets too long, just invade another conveniently located country so that there’s a “new and better” package, same old shit just expanded war.  Accompanied by lots of false flags, propaganda and distractions. 

For example.  Today’s WaPost had an Op-Ed about why its a good idea to invade Iran; rally the populace around a shrinking violet of a Messiah, goose the economy, just like FDR did. (Washington Post, today’s Op-Ed…. not my thoughts, just the messenger here.)
You know, to soften up the slave class to grovel up support for them to give their children to the false enemy so they don’t have to worry about passing along any debt to anyone ’cause there’ll be nobody left….er, maintain their freedoms. 

Or get a few friends and partners (remember, as of yesterday, we have no allies) to help us with the whateverthefuck it is that we’re doing (likewise, there’s is no war on terror anymore) like maybe the ever so helpful French’ll send and aircraft carrier to the gulf.  (One’s on the way, lickitey split, hands above head, no doubt)

Or, maybe throw in a false flag terrrorist attack, all out of sequence, orinination, off script, even message seemingly bungled.  Again.  Wash, rinse, repeat.

Maybe even up the score, push harder, redouble the efforts by secretly transferring most of the military’s special forces teams in Yemen (which is an anagram for enemy, by the way) to the CIA’s control.  (As per the front page of today’s WSJ.  Well, so much for subtlety.)

Whole lotta meaningless bullshit left to do in order to fight a new and improved war so as not to fight the same war (which however these days is not a war but nobody’s sure what the fuck it is and no 3 people can explain to one another satisfactorily.) 

WTF.  Just spin the PR bottle and we’ll all keep taking off our clothes till we look like the Beloved Emperor King.

No problem.  Change the name and we’re all ready home again right where we started.

Login or register to post comments by knukles
on Mon, 11/01/2010 – 15:39
#691580

Oh yeah, and I forgot….

This very a.m. on CNBS, the fealty brigade were discussing what stocks historically performed the best in the days post terrorism scares….. etc. 
Yesseriee, never worry your little head Martha, war can be very profitable and even we can get in on it, too!

Login or register to post comments by midtowng
on Mon, 11/01/2010 – 15:25
#691534

War may be disasterous for a nation (or empire), but it extremely good business for a small group of politically connected people.

So you see, endless war makes perfect from a certain point of view.

Login or register to post comments by Canucklehead
on Mon, 11/01/2010 – 15:26
#691537

George, you really should define “victory”. 

How important is the “War” to the domestic politics of the upcoming mid-term elections?  Has the protest against the “War” become just so much background noise?  Will these mid-term elections remind anyone of 1968?

Login or register to post comments by Temporalist
on Mon, 11/01/2010 – 15:35
#691553

Eisenhower warns us of the military industrial complex (Jan 17, 1961)

 

Military-Industrial Complex Speech, Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961

http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/indust.html

Login or register to post comments by knukles
on Mon, 11/01/2010 – 15:45
#691593

Actually, the speech was delivered twice that day.  The first reading was in a closed session with senior representatives of the House and Senate, wherein the warning was worded as to the “Military-Industrial-Congressional Complex”.
The cries emitting from the congressional members were so intense, the threats so grave as to future relations between the legislative and administrative entities, that the public delivery was modified to “Military-Industrial Complex”  (Public record)

Login or register to post comments by Vampyroteuthis …
on Mon, 11/01/2010 – 15:35
#691558

We have to keep our last productive domestic industry alive, the military-industrial complex. It would be much easier to have real industry, but that would force our leaders to admit that their current economy is nothing more than a sham.

Login or register to post comments by blindman
on Mon, 11/01/2010 – 15:36
#691566

it is so bad we have to arm and finance the “opposition” otherwise

they would lose interest.  end the fed.  we live in a time of

intentional and infinite dullitude. 

Login or register to post comments by Hannibal
on Mon, 11/01/2010 – 15:39
#691578

War is a business, a very profitable one. Bomb then invade and occupy a foreign souvereign nation and viola the rest will follow: McDonalds, PizzaHut, At&t, Exxon, Bechtel, Coke, Porn etc.

Login or register to post comments by unwashedmass
on Mon, 11/01/2010 – 15:39
#691581

end the fed, and you will end the wars.

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